# Phase 4 Proposal Discussion

**URL:** <https://forum.namada.net/t/phase-4-proposal-discussion/1604>\
**Category:** Proposal 🗳️\
**Created:** [6 March 2025 07:17 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/phase-4-proposal-discussion/1604 "2025-03-06T07:17:47Z")\
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**Post date:** [13 March 2025 21:05 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/phase-4-proposal-discussion/1604/16 "2025-03-13T21:05:02Z")

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> [@Veil’s Framework: A Data-Driven Strategy for Asset Selection, Incentive Mechanisms and Privacy Considerations (MASP)](https://forum.namada.net/t/veil-s-framework-a-data-driven-strategy-for-asset-selection-incentive-mechanisms-and-privacy-considerations-masp/1026/18):
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> The lack of natively shielded stakeable NAM is a risk for both the security of the protocol and the effectiveness of shielding. If the reward rates become too unbalanced, people will choose one or the other. The staking reward rate and the shielded set reward rate would have to be continuously balanced against each other. Both are already targeting ratios with PD-controllers. [Namada Specs - Inflation System](https://specs.namada.net/modules/proof-of-stake/inflation-system#proof-of-stake-rewards) However, there are possible adverse effects.

I’d like to see:

- staking reward rate
- shielded set reward rate
- A graph of both of these over time

> [@Veil’s Framework: A Data-Driven Strategy for Asset Selection, Incentive Mechanisms and Privacy Considerations (MASP)](https://forum.namada.net/t/veil-s-framework-a-data-driven-strategy-for-asset-selection-incentive-mechanisms-and-privacy-considerations-masp/1026/34):
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> But that is only effective if there is enough NAM in and going into the MASP. If the MASP is empty, then unshielding ATOM can be linked to the source’s gas fee payments by looking at the transaction timestamps.

I’d also like to see:

- total staked NAM in the MASP
- total staked `<ApprovedToken>` in the MASP
- A graph of these over time

Last thing I’d like to see surrounds gas:

- Total gas consumed over intervals of time
- _Type_ of gas used; What do users prefer, gravitate towards?

For “Default” or easy mode, I would try and limit what is displayed in general, trying to keep it as concise as possible. For “Dev” mode, show everything.

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