# Pre-Genesis Stage 2 begins!

**URL:** <https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962>\
**Category:** Staking & Validators\
**Created:** [17 September 2024 03:22 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962 "2024-09-17T03:22:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [17 September 2024 03:22 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/1 "2024-09-17T03:22:57Z")

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Hey again, Namada Validators 📣

We’re moving along in our [[Proposal] Mainnet 🚀 plan ](https://forum.namada.net/t/proposal-mainnet-plan/903), and now **we’re ready to begin Pre-Genesis Stage 2**! You can still create (but not edit/delete) your mainnet validator, but this stage is intended to focus on creating delegations for discovering our set of mainnet validators (exciting 😮).  
After Stage 2 is done, we will coordinate our mainnet dry run 🚀

🔍 check this out: Fraccaman made a graph that will show pre-genesis delegation voting power distribution: [GitHub - anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis](https://github.com/anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis?tab=readme-ov-file#voting-power-distribution)

Consider mitigating slashing risks by spreading out your stake to different validators.

@spork.Knowable has created this guide: [Namada Pre-genesis Delegations - HackMD](https://hackmd.io/@gaving/SJCFAP8aR)  
and I made this walk-through video: [Namada Pre-Genesis Delegation using Ledger device | Loom](https://www.loom.com/share/91c0db5ddf804c1780b6c07d324d30b6?sid=0505f595-2b4b-4233-9ea4-745b756bce73)

⚠ **Note:** the Namada Ledger app still needs to be updated in Ledger Live, but we have a work-around **that only works for Nano S** devices: [Namada Documentation - Ledger Hardware Wallet](https://docs.namada.net/users/wallet/hardware-wallet)

🗳 You may submit your delegation pull request using this github repo: [GitHub - anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis](https://github.com/anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis)

**Anyone can join Pre-Genesis Stage 2.** We’re just using github to coordinate, but **all valid PRs will be merged,** beginning at 8:00 utc Sep 17. There’s no hand-selected genesis validators happening or whatever, because we’re starting the way we mean to continue, and until we get better tooling, this is as permissionless as it gets!

There is no deadline yet for Pre-Genesis Stage 2, but we will give you **at least 5 days’ notice before ending Pre-Genesis Stage 2**.

We’re using [#pre-genesis-chatter](https://discord.gg/3rQcjpBD4n) channel to chat, if you want to help provide support, have questions or concerns, etc. After merging (or rejecting) your pull request, you will likely get an email notification from github.

📰 sign up for news emails [here](https://namada.us7.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=69adafe0399f0f2a434d8924b&id=263f552276) by checking the appropriate box

🚨 validator actionables mailing list for devops: [Anoma Foundation](http://eepurl.com/iXsBIg)  
same as the validator alerts announced on our [Discord](https://discord.gg/tY749R4pRp))

🚀 🚀 🚀 🚀

> **[Namada Pre-genesis Delegations - HackMD](https://hackmd.io/@gaving/SJCFAP8aR)**
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> Pre-genesis delegations will be used to determine which validators launch the Namada mainnet. Any valid delegation will be included. If you are a validator, please do not try to openly solicit delegations using this process. Please ask your...

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**Author:** ![CosmicValidator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/cosmicvalidator/32/274_2.png) [@CosmicValidator](https://forum.namada.net/u/CosmicValidator)\
**Post date:** [17 September 2024 11:27 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/2 "2024-09-17T11:27:19Z")

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> [@Gavin](#):
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> 🔍 check this out: Fraccaman made a graph that will show pre-genesis delegation voting power distribution: [GitHub - anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis](https://github.com/anoma/namada-mainnet-genesis?tab=readme-ov-file#voting-power-distribution)

@Gavin is this working? There are already some bonding txs but until they are not approved on github this graph is not updated?

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [17 September 2024 14:44 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/3 "2024-09-17T14:44:44Z")

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## ⚠ Warning: we’ve paused the process to investigate a bug 🐛

we will announce in discord, by email, twitter, etc when things are rolling. pls stand by

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [17 September 2024 15:13 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/4 "2024-09-17T15:13:35Z")

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Problem solved! Pre-Genesis Stage 2 has resumed ✅

(way to go, fraccaman 🙌)

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**Author:** ![CosmicValidator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/cosmicvalidator/32/274_2.png) [@CosmicValidator](https://forum.namada.net/u/CosmicValidator)\
**Post date:** [20 September 2024 09:10 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/5 "2024-09-20T09:10:52Z")

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> [@Gavin](#):
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> There is no deadline yet for Pre-Genesis Stage 2, but we will give you **at least 5 days’ notice before ending Pre-Genesis Stage 2**.

Is there some staking ratio that needs to be reached to finalize the pre-genesis stage 2? Or what defines when this stage 2 is done and we can start the mainnet dry run?

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [24 September 2024 19:21 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/6 "2024-09-24T19:21:20Z")

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great question! we’re aiming for 15% of the supply staked, so we have some work to do (ie. help onboard stakers)

we (Knowable) would be comfortable moving forward with \< 15% though, it’s not a blocker

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [24 September 2024 19:22 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/7 "2024-09-24T19:22:41Z")

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here’s a 5 min video walk-through for making a pre-genesis delegation: [Namada Pre-Genesis Delegation using Ledger device | Loom](https://www.loom.com/share/91c0db5ddf804c1780b6c07d324d30b6?sid=0505f595-2b4b-4233-9ea4-745b756bce73)

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [18 October 2024 17:47 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/8 "2024-10-18T17:47:24Z")

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Pre-Genesis is complete ✅

Please see [[Proposal] Mainnet 🚀 plan - #44 by Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/t/proposal-mainnet-plan/903/44) for what’s next!

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.namada.net/gavin/32/16_2.png) [@Gavin](https://forum.namada.net/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [18 October 2024 17:47 UTC](https://forum.namada.net/t/pre-genesis-stage-2-begins/962/9 "2024-10-18T17:47:42Z")

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Closed on 18 October 2024 17:47 UTC


